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Time November 27, 2010

Posted by ekarlpierson in 25) Time.
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WW: There’s something else I don’t like about rewards and punishment. When we talk about rewards and punishment, we’re really saying, “gaining pleasure and avoiding pain.” Have you noticed that everything we discuss relates back to a few basic ideas?

Rewards and punishment is a matter of time. Much of what we’ve been talking about this weekend has to do with time. The promise of a reward or the threat of punishment is for the future. The payment of a reward or the execution of punishment is for something of the past. Much of what we see on our imagination screen has to do with time. We’re in a lifelong obsession with time. We’re in a lifelong battle with time. We believe in it with every fiber of our being. After all, we each have some sort of timekeeping device with us, so time must be real, right? We can see the watch-hands moving. We all agreed to meet here at a certain time, so time must be real, right? Most of us were born under a clock and we live by the clock.

I would state a case for a hypothesis to those in theoretical physics that the past and future exist only in our minds and in our mathematical equations. It’s not worth going into detail here, but I would assert that relative motion can be inserted to an equation in place of time, and the math still works out, having nothing to do with seconds, hours, or years. I also seriously question the idea of a warped space-time. It’s based on the idea that time is inexorably tied to space, and therefore, if space warps, and perhaps it does, then time must warp with it. I would contend that it is our consuming image of time, and the contemporaneous mathematics of time, that are tied to space and relative motion. Whether I’m right or wrong on these points makes no difference for us here at this discussion. We’re looking at our perception of time and the way it relates to our being. You know, human being— i-n-g—present tense.

PARTICIPANT: I don’t think you can prove that there is no such thing as time.

WW: It isn’t up me to prove that time doesn’t exist, it’s up to the theoretical physicists to prove that it does exist.

PARTICIPANT: They have proven that space-time can be warped.

WW: And they proved that how?

PARTICIPANT: I heard that they sent a nuclear clock up on the space shuttle and when it returned to Earth, it had kept time differently than a perfectly synchronized nuclear clock that had been left here on Earth.

WW: And that proved what?

PARTICIPANT; That space-time had warped.

WW: I thought they proved that time-keeping devices change their time-keeping characteristic when they’re placed in motion. Something beyond that would be an explanation or a conclusion. As my mentor said, on many occasions, “There are at least two explanations for every phenomenon.” It keeps a person from getting stuck on a conclusion. Men of knowledge once concluded that the sun orbited the Earth. Virtually everyone believed it, but that didn’t make it true; it was an explanation for a phenomenon. The men of knowledge accepted a single explanation, as if it were a fact. I once put a mechanical clock in my freezer for a couple days and the clock ran significantly slower. Did I prove that the freezer had a time warp?

ED: You proved only that mechanical clocks run slower when they get subjected to very low temperatures, but that’s not the same as the shuttle experiment.

WW: Not the same in what way?

ED: They were physicists doing a scientific experiment.

WW: Oh, come on, tell me the real reason you accept their explanation and you think that I’m full of it.

ED: Because they’re authorities in the field and you’re not.

WW: Now we’re getting somewhere! You accept the word of authority, and the authority of time, the authority of the past. You would have been one of those guys who insisted that the world was flat or that the sun orbited the Earth. You believe in time without sufficient evidence.

My point is that we’re obsessed with time, that we don’t question it, that we can’t force it out unless we use a mind-bending drug like LSD. I don’t think that would be an experiment I would want to participate in.

So, what could possibly be wrong with living with time? Everyone does it, so doesn’t that make it okay? What does the past and future have to do with the awareness function?

PARTICIPANT: I think we were made to live in the present. You know, whenever I hear someone talk about how a person has baggage, they’re referring to something from the past—past problems that get dragged into today’s situation. How is that baggage a benefit?

ANOTHER PARTICIPANT: Yeah, but how about memory? How could anyone function without memory of the past? Hell, you wouldn’t know your way to the grocery store! Also, there’s an adage, “Those who don’t learn from the past are destined to repeat it in the future.” That’s a big benefit. How can we not live in the past?

WW: Now we’re asking the right questions! How do we get past this dilemma? It isn’t difficult to see that living in the present may very likely be our intended design, that baggage gets in the way, yet recollection of events and places is essential for survival. What a grand dilemma! How can we reconcile this? How can we possibly live in the present while the past learning must be called up at every corner?

PARTICIPANT: I don’t think we can truly live completely in the present. Maybe we can live without baggage annoying us to some degree or in some way, but I think we have to live in the past, with projections of the future, to perform, to function normally.

WW: Wait, wait. Don’t shut this off yet. I don’t want to function normally. In this entire discussion we’ve been talking about normalcy. Normalcy is the teaching of the world, the teaching of the natural man, the exoteric teaching. Are we to go this far and then say that we’re to be stuck in this rut? People spend their entire lives going to church or on a self-improvement program to find another way. What are we going to do? Are we to take a chance that there is a heaven and then, as if by magic, suddenly live a different way when we get there? Are we to go the way of humanism, believing that we can conjure up the past and improve the future in a world that’s free of a higher intelligence? We’ve all tried those things and it hasn’t worked out for us. Those things are all about time, improvement of the future, achievement.

Achievement and success imply time. The other option is to give up and live with the soap opera life that we made. I think this is an urgent question. It looks to me like it’s necessary to address this or we’ll just go on as we were. We will have spent this day in vain when we could have been out drinking whiskey and betting on the horses.

ED: Maybe it is all for nothing. Maybe hedonism is the answer.

WW: Admitting that we’re wasting our lives away with hedonism is most certainly the starting point—perhaps, the ending point—the alpha and the omega—without time.

I brought up urgency, seeing the necessity. This is not the same thing as importance. I’m talking about seeing some action as vital or having a vital interest in the moment. Has anyone here had a close call on a car accident, seen the collision coming on, and you thought that you may be going to your death or serious injury?

PARTICIPANT: Yeah, it’s like time stands still or things happen in slow motion.

WW: Precisely. What do you think happened at that moment that made time go away?

ED: It’s a phenomenon that happens in an emergency. I don’t know if I’ve ever heard if anyone knows why. I suppose it has to do with concentration.

WW: Go ahead and concentrate as hard as you can, the sense of time won’t go away. I have another explanation. Mind you, this is only an explanation. When you saw a collision coming on, you temporarily had altered values, and Delta temporarily removed your trolls. You saw the urgency, the necessity, of leaving the bullshit behind. The snide remark that someone made to you earlier that morning became of no value. The anticipation of future problems became of no value. Delta brought about the phenomenon of living in the here and now. As I previously stated, the only real ability of the awareness function is to place a value on whatever we see as what is. Delta does the rest.

Delta gives energy to what we value. If we value attention, approval, fame, methodology, success, all of which imply time, then Delta will energize those trolls, those ideologies. The more we value those ideologies, the more we live with them and the time that they imply. We end up with “problems” that imply time. Isn’t the solution for a problem always pointing to the future? The trolls love the past and the future; they love time. When the trolls are running the show, they get what they pray for, what they value: time.

I can see you have a question, but please excuse me and bear with me so we can address our dilemma. I’m on a roll here. The dilemma is, how can we live in the “here and now” when we must constantly refer to our history, our memory in order to survive? When you had the near collision, time went away. You were still able to function, were you not? You were able to perform your function, skills from the past, your history came into play, the brakes were activated, the steering wheel was turned, a collision was avoided, yet there was no time. How could that be? I don’t know. As I stated previously, I, the awareness function, doesn’t know how to walk, talk, ride a bike, or even think, but Delta can handle the how business quite well without me understanding it. I assert that the strange phenomenon of a timeless near collision occurred when the awareness function, out of necessity, dropped the usual values.

My point in all of this, as simply stated as I can, is that we’ve been able to see that we can function very well in the here and now, even while employing information from our archives, even though it may be a paradox. Delta can work wonders. I don’t know how it is done.

Your question?

PARTICIPANT; I can see what you’re saying, but applying it is another story. I mean, I can’t just walk out of here and say to myself, “Okay, I’m going to live in the here and now,” and then make it happen.

WW: You’re entirely correct. We can’t force a state of being. Our state of being is brought about by an intelligence far beyond my knowledge. I must accept the state of being that Delta presents to me. It isn’t within my ability as an awareness function to do any more than that. My responsibility is to be aware of the trolls as I go about my daily business. That is all. Remember What Dirty Harry said? “A man’s got to know his limitations.”